Android on symbian Project(need advices....50%done)
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by ynlinchen » 07 Oct 2011, 05:55
hi, there,i need some advices
My friend had started a android on symbian project , since some symbian phone's CPU support linux.......
And we first want to first take tests on vivaz,.......now all the android firmware for vivaz is all done , but we met a serious problem, because damn shit SE banned CFW , this is what the problem.........blutooth solved , wireless.....okay......but flashing
Now i have a idea , dont know if it works ,
if we boot from E , this may have a slow speed, so we tried to put android in the built-in memory.
And these are my methods
We try to boot android from E , and than we make the ram part to E , boot, if success.......than we do some kind of format to the built-in memory, wipe out the symbian file system(C,D,Z drive), and write android into the built-in memory...........
Dont worry about the loader problem, a loader for vivaz is avaliable now.......
Someone think this will works?
I dont know alot on symbian filesystem,plz give me some advices
And dont worry about the muti touch , this can solved with program
Since we have made the firmware , and now we try to not to make it useless
............
Best regards,
Evilhawk00
My friend had started a android on symbian project , since some symbian phone's CPU support linux.......
And we first want to first take tests on vivaz,.......now all the android firmware for vivaz is all done , but we met a serious problem, because damn shit SE banned CFW , this is what the problem.........blutooth solved , wireless.....okay......but flashing
Now i have a idea , dont know if it works ,
if we boot from E , this may have a slow speed, so we tried to put android in the built-in memory.
And these are my methods
We try to boot android from E , and than we make the ram part to E , boot, if success.......than we do some kind of format to the built-in memory, wipe out the symbian file system(C,D,Z drive), and write android into the built-in memory...........
Dont worry about the loader problem, a loader for vivaz is avaliable now.......
Someone think this will works?
I dont know alot on symbian filesystem,plz give me some advices
And dont worry about the muti touch , this can solved with program
Since we have made the firmware , and now we try to not to make it useless
............
Best regards,
Evilhawk00

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by Nokia 5700 » 08 Oct 2011, 19:58
Wow, Android on a Symbian device?
Sounds good.
Question: have you confirmed that it will initialize and load the kernel to RAM?
That is the most vital part of loading a Linux system. I'm thinking of a 2-step installation. Linux-style.
Tell me, in what form is the Android system currently stored?
In a image file, Symbian firmware file, what?
Sounds good.
Question: have you confirmed that it will initialize and load the kernel to RAM?
That is the most vital part of loading a Linux system. I'm thinking of a 2-step installation. Linux-style.
Tell me, in what form is the Android system currently stored?
In a image file, Symbian firmware file, what?
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by wook » 08 Oct 2011, 20:38
as far as i am concerned, i would repartition memory card and use ext fs, mount it and boot from it...
I am guessing that you were using domainsrv.exe as loader? right?
I am guessing that you were using domainsrv.exe as loader? right?
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by Z-Mario » 09 Oct 2011, 04:31
ynlinchen wrote:...And we first want to first take tests on vivaz,.......
ynlinchen wrote:vivaz
If this was possible, it wouldbe the best thing to happen to the Vivaz. Stupid SE not only blocked CFWs from the phone but, they kind of forgot about it >_>
I cannot volunteer to test it in my Vivaz Pro because, it's my only phone right now and, I don't think unbricking it would be as easy to do as in the N900
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by Nokia 5700 » 09 Oct 2011, 13:17
wook wrote:as far as i am concerned, i would repartition memory card and use ext fs, mount it and boot from it...
I am guessing that you were using domainsrv.exe as loader? right?
How does booting with domainsrv.exe work?
Will it allow a regular boot from a Linux kernel with init.d services?
If so, a 2-step installation could do it all. A small image is loaded (you'd be free to use any Linux base that supports Little Endian), and it could partition the internal memory/memory card with an image file containing an Android, while skipping the MBR sector. (Wherever that sector might be.)
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by wook » 09 Oct 2011, 15:45
well, domainSrv.exe in this case will be used only as loader, so, whole symbian system will be used only as boot loader, how?
Here it goes:
if we write domainSrv.exe with special privileges (so it can load drivers) we can make driver that will mount img file as rom file system and we can load it to memory page and jump execution to it.
This procedure were used on PSION and Symbian S60v2 (Siemens SX1) machines, for more info search for "arlo" project ong google.
Wsini.ini can be used too, but domainSrv.exe is much better and give is much more of free memory....
If problem with !wServ exists it can be solved.
Here it goes:
if we write domainSrv.exe with special privileges (so it can load drivers) we can make driver that will mount img file as rom file system and we can load it to memory page and jump execution to it.
This procedure were used on PSION and Symbian S60v2 (Siemens SX1) machines, for more info search for "arlo" project ong google.
Wsini.ini can be used too, but domainSrv.exe is much better and give is much more of free memory....
If problem with !wServ exists it can be solved.
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by wook » 09 Oct 2011, 15:49
Nokia 5700 wrote:... and it could partition the internal memory/memory card with an image file containing an Android, while skipping the MBR sector. (Wherever that sector might be.)
no need for partioning it at all as long as driver for it exists
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by Nokia 5700 » 09 Oct 2011, 21:30
Hmm... Make sense.
But you suppose that the loader will only mount the Android ROM with read/write privileges, and start running it?
I believe it would require some 400Mb of space, minimum. And if you want that to work out, you'd have to put apps on the mass storage device. (Apps2SD)
If that's the case, it could work out. But it would require adding preferences to Android that strictly puts apps on the mass storage device.
But you suppose that the loader will only mount the Android ROM with read/write privileges, and start running it?
I believe it would require some 400Mb of space, minimum. And if you want that to work out, you'd have to put apps on the mass storage device. (Apps2SD)
If that's the case, it could work out. But it would require adding preferences to Android that strictly puts apps on the mass storage device.
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by wook » 10 Oct 2011, 00:26
virtual disk with few GBs of alocated memory in img file works as charm
not everything you see has to be physical
btw, apps can go to any memory as long as it is mountable as rw. only kernel needs (not nessesarily) to be on rom (even virtual one)
not everything you see has to be physical
btw, apps can go to any memory as long as it is mountable as rw. only kernel needs (not nessesarily) to be on rom (even virtual one)
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by AJ___92 » 10 Oct 2011, 18:09
droid on symbian -.- kinda strange.
wouldnt it be slow ? i mean symbian phone's hardware isnt "that" powerfull ...
wouldnt it be slow ? i mean symbian phone's hardware isnt "that" powerfull ...

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