Why Symbian AND MeeGo Are Best For Nokia

[dscobsct]

downloaded qt creator today, finally looks like nokia have packaged a great development tool in one install, and can compile for symbian, maemo and eventually meego.
looking really good, i believe them when they say they will be back, we just are all feeling the effects of thier transtitional period of the last three years.

[e_lm_70]

e_lm_70
1 GHz Processor and 500 MB and RAM? And won't they be resource hungry? Desktops are desktops and mobiles are mobiles.Never expect desktop to fit in your pocket. Would you like if your mighty device runs dry in half-day?

For others who think Nokia is leaving Symbian then you're perceiving them wrong. You expect the company to release high-performance devices and at the same time you want them to be resource efficient too. Symbian and MeeGo represent totally different class of users. Symbian makes balanced devices which are both resource efficient and provides great mid-range functionality keeping devices for masses at the same time. MeeGo,desktop class OS optimized for portable devices offering truly high-end performance that Symbian can't offer after some stage. And dropping Symbian from N-Series line-up doesn't necessarily mean that they are gonna drop it wholly. Just for real high performance they are gonna use MeeGo. So Android Androids though look good many people are falling for them just because of UI it gives. How many of you really use them as smartphones? If fancy is what you want then iPhone tops the charts. But none of the OS can match highly optimized Symbian.

For the same price, memory and cpu power double in capacity every two years ... a formula that still work fine since ages ...

Now, soon a mobile phone with 1Ghz and 500Mbyte RAM will be cheap ... so ... OS designed for not be optimized on using resources but optimized for quick development will win ...

I have still not used any Androids ... just tons of Nokia and some iPhones ... but on paper Android sound designed for the future ...

Symbian has a long history ... the phone functionality are very well understood ... actually only the 5th Edition can be consider a crappy due to the UI huge mistake on the missing qwerty touch virtual keyboard, and non always correct single or double click ...

The main problem of Symbian has been the presence of too many dialects, and slightly different terminals ... even Nokia has problem to keep their software from one version to another ... else how is possible that the integrated spell check present in the old 9210 got lost? How is possible that DLNA got lost from S60 3rd to S60 5Th edition ? etc etc

Now ... they are going to present N8 with Symbian ^3, and it will be the first and last N serie with this OS ... N will be MeeGo ...rest ... maybe a mix of Symbian S60 in different edition, S40 and Symbian 4 ... so ... the number of incompatible dialect is growing ...

The story of QT SDK that cover all the different OS, is only a story ... and Nokia, maybe has still not learn that even if code is provided in one click for 3 different system ... then the testing is till 3 time more expensive ...

Tchuss

e_lm_70

ps: In the meanwhile ... nokia left special project like N93 (the only real camera phone ... who cares of mega pixels, if there is no optical zoom ???) .. and as well did kill N.Gage ... who can play games ... if the device is not ergonomic for games ????

Simple thing ... that nokia did not understood ...

pps: The future for high end device is for device with big screen in small dimension ... so ... these as shown by iPhone can only be with a touch UI ... and Nokia proved to be now 3 years behind in this segment ...

[swap002]

e_lm_70
what you said to abt Symbian OS is applicable to Android too. I mean maintaining software versions. Fragmentation for Android devices is greater than that for Symbian OS. Recently Google had published a pie-diagaram showing percentage of devices running on different Android versions. Because of such fragmentation developers have to write same code again and again. There are still devices running on Android 1.1 and mind you, even Google has excluded them from 'compatible devices list' of their new versions. These devices were even refused newer updates. Is this what you call 'Designed for Future'. The only OS I liked,may be more than Symbian is Windows Mobile. If you talk about customizing WinMo, there are almost no limits. I could flash WinMo 6 on my O2 which according to company wasn't capable of WinMo 5, it was unofficially though. Then I could get many apps for almost every purpose. Most of them were compatible for 4th,5th and 6th versions of WinMo. I could give my O2 look of WinMo 6 with a software which seems almost impossible in any existing OS. Though there wasn't eyecandy, it offered all functions I needed.
Now that Nokia is using Qt which is cross platform development environment, there won't be much problem in maintaining software variants.

[arun8gb]

Agree with the Swapy boy.

And imaging one Qt app that works on both Symbian and MeeGo! Wat else do u need?

[labalbi]

Botton line is : Where are those apps ? Nokia is just making press show-off . Where are the apps in Ovi , wrote in Qt, Cobol , CC , whatever !!!! Where?

Have you ever guys installed iTunes to see how much apps (good ones, not trash) there are for Iphone ? And Android as well.

Android is growing fast. But today the majority is using 1.6 Donut which can use 99% of the apps. Can you find anything for your N70? Today ? How long do you stay with a mobile ? 3 years ? Oh yes ? Is that so ?

Cant you understand that a mobile is becoming a "service" more than just a piece of hardware? Cant you?
Nokia still believes that power of hardware is the only thing users need. Despite that , Nokia made some terrible mistakes with N97 hardware (flash?battery?).

Apple realized that . User dont want hardware. They want services. Good ones . In 2 years (such a long time, for Europeans and Japaneses and we - South Americans )you can swap you old Iphone for the new in AT&T. In Brazil you can change your mobile in 9 months , depending your plan .

The great advantage for Nokia today is the price . If they sell the N8 for just U$ 450 as promised is gonna be a success despite the previewed short life of ^3. If, of course, they dont mess the things up like N97.

Its sad to see Nokia walking like a turtle . They saw Apple building its app store from nothing . They saw Google services related to Android improving, improving ...
And what was the answer ? They kill N-gage. They release a laughable OVI . Wow, users can put their own apps on Ovi !!!! Oh! Oh! What happened ? Users flooded the already scary Ovi with tons of RSS feed ! Give-me a break.

I do hope Nokia turn the table up in the saloon and say loudly : "I am the boss ! I rule this shit !Show some respect, you dirty dogs" .

So fas as I can see , Nokia is doing little ...but talking much...

[swap002]

labalbi
bro did u grow up overnight or you were born grown up kid? Nokia took over Qt not long back.It always takes time for adaption. Have you ever written whole app? Do you know what steps are involved? Assume that devs have started using Qt to develop apps, they'll first see how useful it is for them, then they'll develop apps to actually see them running,if everything is good then they'll put in more efforts then debugging,QA etc etc. See you get apps for Android 1.6 coz 2.0 and 2.1 were released too quickly and 1.6 already had many devices running on it and ignoring those devices would have costed everyone right from Google to devs itself. You don't talk abt 1.1 or 1.5 why?
In earlier post you said you want 500 MB RAM and 1GHz CPU as standard now you said it's not hardware it's service. First confirm which side you're. You seem to be confused too much. What Apple gave? Crap.Total Crap. 1st Gen iPhone hardly had anything different from 1100. Poor Cam?No Loudspeaker? Now where they've added file manager and copy-paste functions which is not extra ordinary thing to add in 1st gen iPhone. This is what you call service? If that's all you want then iPhone is right for you.
And still you dare to talk about un-launched N8 and Symbian ^3. S^3 has short life? and how did you make this conlusions? First you use it, see how it works then post yer comments. N8 definitely offers more than iPhone and I won't even need to change my N8 in 9 months fearing that Nokia will launch new version of N8 with new feature set.
I hope you'll get it dude.

[markiz]

Wow. This article is the biggest peace of bullshit i have read in a long time. the author seems to be a blind fanboi who has lost all connection to reality.

He keep rambling about efficiency (have you ever used n97 dude?!), better app "environment" (i guess thats why OVI store has NOTHING worth mentioning) and stuff like that, but he never asks the most important question:

WHAT DO CUSTOMERS GET OUT OF IT?. the answer is nothing. N97 mini i have is a pain to use, frustrating at every step and i have no games or applications worth mentioning aside for a few given like navigation (which does not work always for some reason, just like sports tracker).

Anyhow.. Get a grip chris.

[labalbi]

First. Starting reading better. It was not me who stated the 500MB RAM and 1Ghz. You, kid , as your ridiculous avatar shows barely can understand English as your comments about my post proves.

It was not me who said ^3 would have short life. It was Nokia itself!!! Meego ? Did you know ? After N8? Mobile Manager? Ring a bell ?
Nokia had 3 years from the launch of the first Iphone generation to do something. What they did? Almost anything.

Im done with your kind , ugly kid. Before the launch of N97 , dozens of nokia-fans wrote about how marvelous this gadget would be. I think even you, short-minded , know the end of the history.

As a Nokia fan too, as you confirm in my long list of Symbian devices I am really disappointed. Really.

Buy the N8 . And then hope to any 3d game be available at low cost and quickly.

One more thing , dont use "dude" with me . I am not your pal , neither your brother. And please , change your avatar. You kinda of ugly, as I told ....

Anyway, no more replies here . You are living of hopes, promises , speculations . I rather prefer using something that can worthy my money today, now .

[setter]

Now it is time to calm down before let the whip whiz in here.
There is no need for personal attacks or harsh words.
I will not see through my fingers no matter who it is that continues fussing.

Calm down and behave as gentlemen, which I hope you all are.

[AJ___92]

lemme say a few words:

if you don't like symbian why do you waste your time on a symbian forum ?